Kryomek!

[mrspaceman]

CBUs as attackers and targets added: rjaduthie.co.uk/Testing/js/kryomek/Nexus-WeaponForm.html

I'm not sure whether the way the CBUs are listed is the best: the attacker list have explicit processing unit (X3, X4, etc.), but the target list are chassis-based (talos, helcat mk1, ...). Maybe, if there was an army builder database behind this UI, the options could be based on exact CBU types. I was taking a shortcut, really.

[mrspaceman]

Katie: do the T62 damage in your house rules the coincide with those in the Kronicles? Am I right in thinking the missing CBU stuff is in that book? Does it also explain what T72s and T82s are? They're in the point section of Hivestone.

[Katie]

Yes. Cos that's where I got them from.

Some of it.

No, I don't think so.

[mrspaceman]

It's down to $125 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grenadier-Kryomek-Miniatures-and-rulebooks/332434292020) the postage and import are about $100, it's about £170, which is an average of £1.43 per miniature (for Helion and Warmaster alike...calculation not including the 'chaos spawn', nor the books).

Want to split this? 6 days to decide.

[Katie]

I could be up for 30 or 40 quids worth I guess.

[mrspaceman]

The haul finishes just afyer midnight tonight. I'll PM you to decide details of what you'd want, so I can decide whether I can viably bid for this.

[mrspaceman]

Aside from the imminent influx of Kryomek (the bid on the eBay haul was successful), I have been working on my small human/CBU force. They all have some amount of paint on them, although really it's either a historic paint-job or an undercoat. I should have them good for the table by December. Points-wise it's about 350-400 points, depending on the experience level choices and CBU ACM complexity. I quite like the idea of having various levels of experience on the field; it might lend itself to some interesting tactical play. It's a nice small force, too: 2 five-man squads and three individual CBUs. Maybe if we go with this size of force, we can finish a game!? ;¬)

[mrspaceman]

Just noticed that there are no points values for X3/X4 helcats specified, nor Mk1/Tarek helcat chassis. Also, no points value for a talos T61, only T51 or T62. Are these in Kronicles?

Maybe the points system can be worked out somehow to give points per AC, RC or what have you. Surely it's just a set of simultaneous equations...

[Katie]

To stop you wondering Kronicles contains;

Reapers -- bg, rules.
Reapers' web guns -- rules/stats.

Megacorp Security Forces -- bg.

Hand Grenades -- rules/stats.
Heavy Grenade Launcher -- rules/stats.
Sleeper Gas -- rules/stats.
Strip Missile Launchers -- rules/stats.
Extended Range Gauss Rifles -- rules/stats.
Smg/GL combination -- rules.
Small Hand Flamer -- rules.

Cobra Marines -- bg, rules, (armour & classes).
Security troops -- bg, rules, (armour & classes).
Corp Marines -- bg, rules, (armour & classes).

Phase 2 -- Panic/Pursuit -- rules update.
Phase 7 -- Tidy -- Under fire counter procedure, KO counter procedure.
S9.4.1 Movement restrictions in Close Combat.
S11.2.1 Hidden Units clarification
S1.2.1 Neuro-Frenzy extra rules.
S1.3.1 Chameleonic camouflage
S3.8.2 T62 damage table
S8.14.1 Additional Terror conditions
S4.5 Kryomek vehicle control markers. (Interstingly this drops their CV requirements to 2 instead of 4)
S13.17 Infantry CC on vehicle clarification

There are two scenarios & a US catalogue.

[mrspaceman]

Some important stuff in Kronicles. Infantry CC on vehicles (i.e. hard targets), for instance. Can any weapon be used versus H targets when in CC, but with the penalties first mentioned in Hivestone? Specifically, can Kryomek somatic weapons affect H targets?

Also, more evidently lacking from Hivestone, is there anything in there about kryomek vehicles' shooting stats (i.e. RC)?

[Katie]

The additional 13.17 bit says that the "unarmed" modifier is for vs soft targets, not hard.

There's already a "Kryomek" CC vs Hard modifier in there.

No, there's no vehicle RC values.

In other news I got most of the modifiers into my calculator app.

[mrspaceman]

Kryomek then!

How about on the 8th or 15th? Tho', did I read that 8th is earmarked for boats? I'll come down anyway and play a game. I can bring your extra kryomek beasties, Katy.

[Katie]

Katie. With an IE.

Humans: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fantasy-Forge-Vintage-Space-Troopers-and-Kryomek-Aliens-Metal-Figures-/182957515318?

[Katie]

I'll get munny sorted. Been paid.

[mrspaceman]

Sorrie.

That humans lot has been relisted once already; it now has a best offer on it. Looks like not a bad selection, if a bit hodgepodge (who wants monoculture armies anyway!?).

If I can work out my budget for it I might make an offer myself. Unless you're keen.