"Rebels and Patriots"

[Katie]

I'd just like to point out that at the end of January there's going to be a new Rampant.

This one covers the gap between the end of "The Pikeman's Lament" in the mid/late-1700s and the beginning of the colonial warfare era "The Men Who Would Be Kings".

Crucially, this one covers the ACW which has been the source of previous club adventures... ACW everyone!!! Zouaves and Sharpshooters, the Irish Brigade and shotgun cavalry, Cherokee scouts and Picket's charge!

The rules appear to have new features: volley firing and close order stuff.

We could probably sort out some sort of bulk purchase of Perry plastic boxes and swapping around to get everyone a mix of units...

[dan]

So how many different systems are you trying to do at once now Katie? XD.

[Katie]

"Horizon Wars", "R&P:ACW", "WH40Ked1", "Kill Zone:WW1".

That's all perfectly reasonable.


There's no guarantee at all that "Battlegroup:Northag" will drop in 2019.

And "Moongrunt" is only skirmish & have all the figs and rules.

[dan]

Is Moongrunt related to StarGrunt?

[Katie]

Well, the figures are, but people seem to be using "Tomorrow's War" rather than SGII.

[Katie]

OK, my copy of R&P has arrived -- it's all very nice. (Currently 9 quid on Amazon). There's defn some scope here for some super gaming if we declare a CLUB PROJECT!!!


Basically, it's the Dragon Rampant system which you all know & love with some additions.

There's a "close order" system which determines the number of dice rolled in shooting. There's a two stage "battered" system -- the first is "Disorder" which affects fighting ability, then "broken" which affects movement as well. I think that'll model the fighting of the time quite well.

Like "Pikeman's Lament" there's a character system for commanders (instead of the dice-roll of LR/DR).

One interesting change is that morale is now driven not by total losses, but by losses per turn -- so you have to inflict hard punches rather than slowly whittle down numbers.

Unlike LR/DR/PL, failing an activation does NOT end your turn.

For your education and entertainment, I'm compiling a list of some of the key differences at:

docs.google.com/document/d/1dExu3QT9sm9sAinoPcboqjVelgEF3rsmSMZEjjdSluM/edit

Forces-wise, they're a similar size. You could probably get a full army of 24pt from a box of Perry plastics, I think cavalry armies might need a box-and-a-half or people could split them for a unit each. Artillery looks like playing a good role and that's also out in plastic and people could probably split a box three ways between armies.

Lots of cool flags and uniforms to paint. And yes, there are suitable rules for red trouser zouaves and green uniform snipers, iron brigade, native american contingents and all that.



Who's up for some ACW?? I've got YARDS and YARDS of snake-rail fencing to use...

[rflowings]

Right. I bought the book for R & P and am thinking seriousl about a miniatures purchase.

I could certainly go for ACW. If it works out I will probably paint up some troops for the contemporary French intervention in Mexico. Are you thinking Union or Confederate Katie?

[Katie]

Woohoo!!!!


I've just bought a bunch of boxes of plastics and some discount metals to make 24pt of each side (Mostly "plain" line units, some cav and some artillery).

I'm going to dig out the metals and I think I could probably get 24pt of both out of them as well (Iron Brigade/Berdans for Union, Zouaves/skirmishers for Confed). Might have to paint some extras to make up numbers for them.

If you're thinking of the perry plastics then a) There are usually deals at the shows. (I got five boxes for 70 quid from Caliver at Robincon) and b) we can probably arrange swaps of bits. (I could do with more of the skirmisher sprues in exchange for the march/charge sprues and both can be painted for either side). See: docs.google.com/document/d/1x_6_AqPsawgE7FVzJoaxmUIMV2RtYPABrdK-QiVXZ-o/edit

The book has apparently sold out already and Osprey are about to do a second full print run!!