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Post by listy on Jul 13, 2021 9:46:10 GMT
There was some talk last night amongst a few of us about starting up a 40K RPG. But there's much to discuss. Also, if you're not part of the WHFRP group, feel free to chip in, as not everyone will be able to commit from the WHFRP group.
First off Tim's schedule means that he can only GM the one campaign on Monday night. Thus the first question is: Do we want to pause WHFRP to resume, or start something else? Or do we want to continue the WHFRP? If the latter it is possible that I could GM a 40k game (Maybe even on a different night), we could also run it over discord, as that seems to be working. I've not GM'd for many decades though, so it may not be as smooth as Tim's. Another point to consider is that Chris (hat) has previously said he dislikes 40K as there's no good guys. I've no idea if this still holds true, but it would effect the decision to pause the WHFRP.
Another thing to discuss is what exactly would we be doing?
As I see it, there's a few 40K ideas to play with:
Space Marines: That's Deathwatch as the core game. I do have some ideas to try something a bit different that would add a lot of variance to the game, and more it away from the well supported and equipped Deathwatch kill team idea. I was thinking of a renegade squad in the Maelstrom. It gives vastly more options as to story. Characters/motivation can range from the full on Chaos worshiper, to the disillusioned ultramarine who didn't brush his teeth in the codex approved manner and got exiled.
The other option is to work with Only War, which is Imperial Guard. Again I have some ideas such as a squad/platoon game there, or even the idea of a squad of Tau aligned humans (there's Chris' good guys) Which we could run in a similar way.
So there's plenty of options, but before we settle we'd need to have a chat on what to do, hence this post.
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Post by rflowings on Jul 13, 2021 13:13:31 GMT
I'm well up for a 40k setting and all the proposed options sound entertaining.
As an Imperial Guard player for two permanently lost decades, I would support either an Imperium or Tau aligned human squad.
I certainly appreciate the desire for a less morally debased setting than The Grim Darkness of the Far Future, but I think a lot of that could be achieved by a remote or frontier setting (the Maelstrom would be a good location for that reason).
I mentioned it on discord but I have some GM experience myself and would be willing to give it a whirl.
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Post by jokulhaup on Jul 15, 2021 12:25:08 GMT
Im happy to do 40K, would love to do 'Only War'...oh to be a Guardsman/Ratling/Commisar
As for when, suggest an alternative night to the Monday sessions
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Post by dan on Jul 15, 2021 13:02:39 GMT
Fridays or Sundays for me and Deathwatch or Rogue Trader would be my preferences.
Less interested in Only War tbh.
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Post by listy on Jul 15, 2021 16:23:39 GMT
Maybe if we did an Only War game, and stuck Daniel in a sentinel, then he could stomp about and pretend to be a Space Marine?
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Post by rflowings on Jul 15, 2021 16:42:57 GMT
How about a gland warrior? That's halfway to being a beakie.
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Post by dan on Jul 15, 2021 18:39:24 GMT
Or how about rogue trader? Fly around in our own space ship? 40k meets firefly eh?
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Post by dan on Jul 15, 2021 18:40:11 GMT
Or I'll be a commissar and have you all shot at the end of the first mission haha.
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Post by dan on Jul 15, 2021 18:43:26 GMT
And 40k not having good guys really depends on your point of view. The Imperium of Man is arguably almost as good as it's possible for it to be given its situation.
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Post by listy on Jul 16, 2021 8:50:04 GMT
And 40k not having good guys really depends on your point of view. The Imperium of Man is arguably almost as good as it's possible for it to be given its situation. But it's not lawful good, so to speak. That's one of the advantages of the Tau human idea. It's easier for us to RP, as they have the technology similar to ours, unlike the imperium. Playing Tau is hard as they're alien, and you tend to get a blue human outcome, which doesn't really work. |
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Post by rflowings on Jul 16, 2021 15:12:16 GMT
Can adapt my frontier world scenario (Working Titles: The Raskolnikov Intervention or One Of Our Assassins is Missing) to a Tau-aligned scenario if desired. Can't promise goodies and baddies but certainly moral nuance in either an Imperial or Tau scenario. Sterntwilight rather than Grimdark.
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Post by dan on Jul 16, 2021 15:35:37 GMT
And 40k not having good guys really depends on your point of view. The Imperium of Man is arguably almost as good as it's possible for it to be given its situation. But it's not lawful good, so to speak. That's one of the advantages of the Tau human idea. It's easier for us to RP, as they have the technology similar to ours, unlike the imperium. Playing Tau is hard as they're alien, and you tend to get a blue human outcome, which doesn't really work. Ironically you could possibly argue chaotic good haha. |
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Post by rflowings on Jul 16, 2021 16:56:42 GMT
I think the Imperium is 100% Lawful Evil. I don't think there's any ambiguity about that in the modern fluff. Maybe the Blue beakies of Macragge aspire to Lawful Neutral.
Chaotic Good, on the other hand? My money's on the Harlequins.
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Post by dan on Jul 16, 2021 17:29:56 GMT
I think the Imperium is 100% Lawful Evil. I don't think there's any ambiguity about that in the modern fluff. Maybe the Blue beakies of Macragge aspire to Lawful Neutral. Chaotic Good, on the other hand? My money's on the Harlequins. Hmmm you could be right there Rory! XD Though the Imperium is slowly changing what with Papa Smurf having returned from the almost dead and trying to reform it after being shocked by what it became... "Why do I still live? What more do you want from me? I gave everything I had to you, to them. Look what they have made of our dream. This bloated, rotten carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope, but by fear, hate and ignorance. Better that we had all burned in the fire of Horus' ambition than lived to see this." |
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Post by listy on Jul 16, 2021 18:08:12 GMT
I think the Imperium is 100% Lawful Evil. I don't think there's any ambiguity about that in the modern fluff. Maybe the Blue beakies of Macragge aspire to Lawful Neutral. Chaotic Good, on the other hand? My money's on the Harlequins. Hmmm you could be right there Rory! XD Though the Imperium is slowly changing what with Papa Smurf having returned from the almost dead and trying to reform it after being shocked by what it became... That's why you ignore the modern desperate retconing. |
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